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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Katherine on Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:13 pm

Lulu2011 wrote:
Patricia wrote:Do we have a list of all male psy somewhere? Then we could just strike-through everyone, you know, who was someplace when the Ghost was somewhere else, or who has thought about the Ghost as if the Ghost was another person, blah.

How about the character guide at Wicked Scribes? http://wickedscribesnalinisingh.wordpress.com/the-psychangeling-series/psychangeling-character-guide-2/

Wow...somebody put a lot of work into that.

I've been through it twice now...and I'm not seeing too many candidates for the Ghost. Most of the male psy on that list are dead. :-/


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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Elaine on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:28 pm

TheFLuff wrote:She said somewhere, that it' s someone we've met

thanks TheFluff. Does anyone remember when or what was the last book/novella that was released before Nalini said this? Then we'll limit our speculation to those psy already mentioned that time.
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Rageane on Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:43 am

Elaine wrote:
paranormalmama wrote:Oh and I think Vasic is late twenties, early thirties at a stretch-but younger than Judd. I think this because I believe he is younger than Judd (Walker's teachings helped child arrows like him & Aden) and I also think he is around Annie's age (from the novella, I think Vasic saved her as a child TK) and around the time of her and Zach's novella Annie was 28...


Vasic can't be the one to have saved Annie, the child Tk involved was a cardinal. Vasic has gray eyes, so he's not a cardinal. I also believe it might be Kaleb who saved Annie.

What if the child Tk that saved Annie is the Ghost...and we actually haven't met him except only as this figure who stands in the shadow? Here's my second question...just what kind of power is Aden hiding?
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Alliee on Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:22 am

Interesting idea. I had not thought of that. I think Aden's power is some type of telepathy, since he was taught by Walker. I believe it is mentioned that his telepathic touch is so subtle, none of his other trainers even noticed it and he was misclassified as a medic. Maybe he is able to exert a mindwashing influence without having to get through shields.

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by TheFLuff on Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:23 am

Aden isn't actually hiding. The thing with him is, that he's extremely subtle and his telepathy is very light-footed.
You don't know, when Aden just slipped through your shields (see Kaleb in ihm.. BoJ im think, it was)
And Aden doesn't mind control people, they just do what he wants ^^

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Elaine on Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:50 am

Re Aden, these are two of the relevant statements about him:

In Tangle of Need Chapter 8:

"Chosen for Arrow training only because his parents had both been Arrows, Aden was officially a field medic, his telepathic touch so subtle, he’d always been classified in the wrong—much lower—Gradient. Walker Lauren was the first person who had understood the dangerous power of Aden’s mind … and he had kept Aden’s secret, taught him skills Aden used to this day."

In Kiss of Snow Chapter 54:
"Judd thought of his brother’s brilliance at telepathic deceptions, without which they would’ve never have escaped the Net, and wondered just how Aden had utilized those skills."


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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Katherine on Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:11 am

So Aden is probably classified as being like a midrange telepath when he's actually high gradient.


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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by TheFLuff on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:09 am

He was as a child. By now it's known, that he is a high level telepath.
Ming said something like it in Dev' so book

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by paranormalmama on Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:53 pm

so what is Aden's special gift with his tp? Mind control?

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by TheFLuff on Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:16 pm

I don't think, it' s actually a certain designation or anything.
It's just, that he is very very subtle.
You wont notice, when he slips through your shields or anything

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by sephora on Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:20 am

Hmmmm.. I was so so sure it was Kaleb. Then I read ToN, and went back and read PoP and KoS....I'm thinking good probability of Vasic now....

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Rageane on Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:50 am

paranormalmama wrote:so what is Aden's special gift with his tp? Mind control?

Who says that what Jon's ability as a forgotten can't be emulated as something similar in a Psy?
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by arne on Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:48 am

Maybe has some telepathic power to let people see illusion in the mind.

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Elaine on Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:54 am

There is not much information about Aden's psy powers: his designation is not given (but it is assumed he is Tp-Psy because Ming identified that as Aden's primary talent in Blaze of Memory), nor his gradient, nor any other subspecialties. We know he is a field medic, but that does not mean he has M-Psy talents.

His abilities in telepathic deceptions we can assume from Walker being his teacher and Aden's admission that he has used what Walker has taught him to save the life and sanity of numerous arrows (in Kiss of Snow). And there is yet no explanation in any of the books nor novellas as to what "telepathic deceptions" are.

There was a time I wanted Aden to be the Ghost... but that seems improbable now.
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by TheFLuff on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:22 am

Aden 8+ tp and 3.6 (if I remember right) m-psy ability, with the actual talent of healing.
Adens actual talent in tp is the very subtlety.
A tp can take over anothers mind, when he makes it through the shields.
Just Aden does so without anybody noticing.

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Lulu2011 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:34 am

Fluff, are you back home now? Thanks again so much for your updates from the Love Letter Convention.
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by TheFLuff on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:54 am

Yup, home and already on the way to vacation

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Lulu2011 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:59 am

Have a great time wherever you are heading!
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by TheFLuff on Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:04 am

Uhm...LARP Convention.

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Lulu2011 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:05 am

LOL, another convention? Gamers right? Hope you have a fabulous time!
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Maharet on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:11 pm

Ghost has to be someone who is rather well known...In KoS,while thinking of his identity, Judd said that "Even Father Xavier Perez, the third part of their curious triumvirate, had never made the connection."And for him to make the connection,Ghost has to be someone he (and the rest of the population) had at least heard of...And I don't think Vasic fits,as almost nobody even knows he exists...But at the same time Kaleb is probably too well known...It's all so very frustrating.
I'm so glad I found this group,I was in danger of going crazy waiting for the next book Smile

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Patricia on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:11 pm

Maharet - True, when I was a firm Kaleb believer I actually thought about that statement, too. But we don't know just how much Perez really knows about Judd and the other Psy. I mean, maybe the 'connection' is just "It's an Arrow", though yeah.. that quote doesn't make it seem like that.

Alas.. I iz confused.

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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by OrchidKindofGirl on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:21 pm

I was speculating lately about the Ghost.. my instinct after reading ToN solidified (for me, anyway) that it is Vasic. The parallels in which they think, the sole focus in being able to save the PsyNet (ultimately the innocent Psy who know nothing of the corruption within it)...

I had a discussion with a few friends the other day discussing how the Ghost feels about Silence. I know the Ghost has stated (in ToN and in other novels) that he cannot break his Silence because it would be detrimental to the Net.. but I don't believe he is hook, line, sinker on keeping the Psy a Silent race. And with how Vasic looks to Aden and Judd... seeing how they are happy and could be happy...

I wish I could just plug a USB port to my brain and let my thoughts flow into this little comment box. It would be a hell of a lot easier than trying to write it. Haha.
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Lulu2011 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:46 am

I used to be SURE that it was Kaleb but I think I may be jumping on the Vasic train at this point. If Kaleb's book is up next (and we don't know that it is) and the Ghost's book is supposed to be last in this arc, then that would eliminate Kaleb as a possibility. This is also why I think that maybe Aden will be the next book so that Vasic and Kaleb will still both be contenders and keep us all talking. That would also give Kaleb a really big storyline in the next book, as we find out who this girl is and she starts to recover.

I think it's possible that the Ghost's identity will be revealed earlier than we think too. It would be pretty anti-climatic if Aden gets his book next, then Kaleb and then we would all know that the Ghost is Vasic since he would be last. Wouldn't be much of a big reveal.
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Re: So who is the Ghost?

Post by Maharet on Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:17 pm

The more I read all the books,the more I'm convinced that nether Kaleb nor Vasic are the Ghost.Kaleb is just too obvious a choice,and I don't think that Vasic is powerful enough.The Ghost has to be someone extremely powerful if the survival of the entire Net depends on him and his Silence,and Vasic is not even a Cardinal...

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