Re: The Ghost

by CassB Sat May 25, 2013 11:18 am

Syaffolee -- Thanks for the quotes from MtP, I didn't remember the mark was mentioned before the scene in BbF. My last reread was about 3 to 6 months ago and it was not in order, so I have all these thoughts floating around without reference to a specific book.

In regards to the mark, I think too it is an actual brand. I suppose it could be a birthmark, which could possibly point to a relation to Ming as he is known to have a birthmark. But the repeated use of the word "brand" leads me away from a birthmark.

by Yurice Sat May 25, 2013 3:21 pm

To me, the word 'branded' does not mean the technique that was used to place that mark, but to describe the significance of the mark. You know, how a certain logo or design can be a product's brand. Something like that. Smile

So it can be something that was tattooed on him, or burned into his skin, or scarification...like some tribes do. :3

I don't think it's a birthmark too, but something placed on him, and as Lulu said in the other forum, possibly a mark Enrique made on Kaleb, either to mark him as possession or for passing a milestone. X_X;

by syaffolee Mon May 27, 2013 2:32 pm

Man, the Ghost is driving me crazy. So I finished combing through all the books and have collected all the clues in a blog post: http://syaffolee.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/the-ghost-in-the-net/

Let me know if there are any clues I've missed. Or if you guys have any alternative interpretations!

by CassB Mon May 27, 2013 3:46 pm

Syaffolee -- Great post, very well written. Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed reading.

by CassB Thu May 30, 2013 1:25 pm

TheFLuff wrote:2070 - Judd becomes an Arrow
2071 - Judd start his own little insurgency
2072 - Judd meets the Ghost ? (CbI Judd ' fesses up tp Brenna, near end)
2073 - disappearance of Sahara, 16 year old cousin of Faith NightStar
2073 (Spring, early Summer) - Judd meets Xavier (CBI, first scene with XP))
2074 (Summer) - Kaleb starting his search
2078 (Spring/Summer) - the Laurens defect
2078 - Slave to Sensation, Visions of Heat (as per Timeline floating around in the net)
2079 - Slave to Sensation, Visions of Heat (as per beginning of Slave to Sensation)
2079 (Winter/Spring) - Caressed by Ice
(CbI to BbF: 1 1/2 years according to Q&A with NS)
2080 (Autumn) - Branded by Fire
2080 (Winter) - Blaze of Memory
2081 (late WInter, Jan/Feb?) Bonds of Justice
6 years, five months, and three weeks ago.
-> Summer 2074

I know, I have two dates given for StS and VoH
Explanation included ^^

Judd was 26, going on 27 in CbI, He was an Arrow for 8 years, from 18-26, since he is almost 27 in CbI, his birthday must be sometime in Spring. So, the Laurens must have defected sometime after Spring 2078

For Reference: /Q&A post by NS)
"Bonds of Justice" is set at the beginning of 2081 (in SF), while "Play of Passion" is set a little later, during spring (which is still cold in the mountains).

For Reference, timeline from Wickedscribes:

http://wickedscribesnalinisingh.wordpress.com/the-psychangeling-series/psychangeling-character-guide-2/

1969 - program to condition all negative emotion out of the Psy put in place
1970 – Alice Eldridge begins study of X-Psy designation
1975 - supposed death of author Alice Eldridge
1979 - Silence protocol changed to stop Psy from feeling all emotion
2019 - Psy attempt to ban Christmas
2059 - ShadowWalker pack attack kills Lucas Hunter’s parents
2060 - train accident injuring Annie Kildare; Sophia Russo disowned by family; Clay Bennett kills Orrin Hendersen
2061 - Beat of Temptation
2063 - Nathan becomes a Sentinel
2067 - Mercy Smith crowned Miss Bikini Babe
2068 - Lucas Hunter becomes DarkRiver Alpha
2069 - death of Iliana Aleine
2070 - death of Lachlan, former DarkRiver Alpha
2072 - Whisper of Sin
2073 - disappearance of Sahara, 16 year old cousin of Faith NightStar
2075 - death of Riena Duncan, making Nikita official head of the Duncan family
2077 - Kylie Christensen murdered by Enrique Santano
2078 - Slave to Sensation, Visions of Heat
2079 - Caressed by Ice
2080 - Stroke of Enticement, Mine to Possess, Hostage to Pleasure, Branded by Fire, Blaze of Memory
2081 - Bonds of Justice, Play of Passion
2082 - Kiss of Snow, discovery of cryogenetically frozen Alice Eldridge

So, if we go with Kaleb being the Ghost and Sahara being his heroine, and we follow the timeline above, the Ghost was active before Sahara was kidnapped or went missing. That raises some interesting questions for me. I really hope HoO gives us a good sense of time and how everything played out in the past. Thanks to TheFluff for the timeline!

by Elaine Fri May 31, 2013 1:11 am

In the twitter chat, the Ghost said the plans he is following have in motion for over two decades. If the Ghost is one of the usual suspects (Kaleb or Vasic, another Arrow), he started planning and implementing when he was ten years old or less.

So who started the plans? A mother or father or mentor perhaps? Or is the Ghost someone older than the usual characters?

by lilmrsnomad Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:18 pm

There's a passage in Kiss of Snow where the Ghost references 'The Obsidian Archive' when looking for Alice Eldridge's X-Psy Manuscript. Coincidence maybe, but I vote Kaleb Smile

by Roxsan Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:19 am

The identity of the Ghost is revealed in Heart of Obsidian. If you want to know who it is, click on the spoiler. Smile

Spoiler:

by Bella171901 Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:34 pm

What about the "thing" Kaleb got on his arm?

by Elaine Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:14 am

The "thing" is a mark on his forearm:

Spoiler:

by Bella171901 Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:05 am

njaaaaww!! Isn't he cuuuute!!! I have to think of a stupid petname for him. You know like HawkiePawkie and Rileybear and Drewiepooie
Maybe Kalliebear!

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