Tangle of Need: Riaz & Adria's Story- Coming June 2012

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Post by Patricia on Tue May 29, 2012 1:49 pm

Lulu - Yeah, and I didn't even have to do anything illegal like killing people, breaking into warehouses or downloading a file! Who would have thought?

Sarah - I'LL TRY! God, I'm so horrible about emails. XD

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Post by Lulu2011 on Tue May 29, 2012 2:03 pm

sephora, yeah, it's the contradictions that are getting to me. They feel like they should be mates, the deep emotional and physical connection they have. And then you get:

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"She wasn't the one who had made its soul sing in recognition when they had been in this waterlogged city before, but she was his friend, his lover, carried his scent. The wolf trusted her at his back, with its secrets, had no intention of letting her go."

So, it's back to Really Good Friends With Benefits. Sheesh.
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Post by Sarah18 on Tue May 29, 2012 2:15 pm

Patricia wrote:

Sarah - I'LL TRY! God, I'm so horrible about emails. XD

I send you one <3
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Post by ferdy on Tue May 29, 2012 2:41 pm

I love Sienna/Hawke and their realtionship/mating does make sense to me (unlike Adria/Riaz non mating relationship) but I still have a small but perisitent feeling that just won't go away that Rissa was his true mate..Even when I understand the Sienna/Hawke mating completely that feeling just won't go away..it's just there when it comes to Hawke/Sienna..grrr..I guess you can't help the way you feel no matter how illogical that feeling is.

Lulu2011 wrote:sephora, yeah, it's the contradictions that are getting to me. They feel like they should be mates, the deep emotional and physical connection they have. And then you get:

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"She wasn't the one who had made its soul sing in recognition when they had been in this waterlogged city before, but she was his friend, his lover, carried his scent. The wolf trusted her at his back, with its secrets, had no intention of letting her go."

So, it's back to Really Good Friends With Benefits. Sheesh.

This just breaks my heart..there's just too many times that Riaz has thought that Lisette is the one for him for me to let it go later on in the book even when Riaz will eventually decides he wants to only be with Adria....I want my heroes to have only felt that strongly about the heroine, I only want the heroine too have made the heroes soul sing, I want the heroine not the 'other woman' to be the only one that could cause soul deep pain..sigh..but then again I want someone's potential mate to be the only one for that someone..after all we've been told over and over that there's no one that could make a changeling feel complete and happy than that person's mate.. but then again I want Adria to be the only one for Riaz is because she's the heroine of the book - but only because she's the heroine of the book and I feel connected to her..it's just a clusterf**k really because I also want Lisette/Riaz together because they are mates..ideally I would have liked Lisette/Riaz to have got together and Adria to have found her own mate..sigh..my head hurts:P

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Post by sephora on Tue May 29, 2012 3:04 pm

Im gonna be bitter here, coz this book is actually making me sad..and Psy-Changeling books never ever, make me anything other then excited and happy, coz u know, it is always, always, a true HEA..
Im just.. gaah!! Incoherent!

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1-Apparently, the mate bond isnt all that special after all. The explaination makes it clear as hell. You can choose not to mate. If you fall in love before u meet ur mate, the bond wont happen..Well!!...Aren't u happy Sascha, Faith, Ashaya,Mercy, that your men never fell in love before you ladies, or it would have been bye bye, mate...!!

Wat may I ask was the point of hammering in book after book, the idea that the mate-bond is the ultimate thing.Even in this book, where there is for sure no mate-bond, till the very end, it is present, just not towards Adria.


2-It is very conveniently explained away as I said above, that Adria's mate will never be an issue since she fell in love with Riaz before meeting hypothetical mate..
However, Riaz will always have a "dull ache"/tug as far as Lisette is concerned.


In Adria's own words..She is the consolation prize.

Adria is the one short changed in this book, if u ask me. She should have be given her own mate, not some other woman's mate, who because of unrequited mate-bond fell in love with her.
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Post by Lulu2011 on Tue May 29, 2012 3:22 pm

What's interesting to me so far (65% done) is that there has been no mention of Adria's mate and that she has someone out there as well somewhere. Why can't it be Riaz? Adria had this instant, visceral reaction to Riaz as it's described in the book. Once they decide to pursue things, it heats up fast both physically and emotionally. So why isn't she thinking, hmm, maybe he's my mate? Because it sure seems like it to me.

The Adria/Riaz parts are sooooo frustrating right now.

A little bit of relief: I just hit that part that was quoted in the Heroes & Heartbreakers review that had made me really sad. The part where Riaz is holding Adria and thinking that the wolf is now delighted in the lover who had become a friend and now owned a great big chunk of his heart. It just seemed like Adria was getting the crumbs, what was left over basically. But that's at the 70% done point so I'm hoping by the end, she'll get 100% ALL of it. Not too much to ask. Isn't this supposed to be romance?
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Post by sephora on Tue May 29, 2012 3:48 pm

@lulu..have u reached the dull tug part? *snort* Evil or Very Mad

I am actively, and extremely disappointed with this book coz it created loopholes in what was a solid basis for this series..
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Post by ferdy on Tue May 29, 2012 4:04 pm

Sephora (and er Adria) spot on about Adria being the consolation prize.. I'm utterly disappointed in it all. I feel so sorry for Adria so far it's obvious that Adria feels far far far more strongly for Riaz than he does her..even when she describes them having sex it's so wonderful for her and the best she's ever had but for Riaz even though he wants sex with her and enjoys it, it's nowhere near to the same extent and pleasure Adria gets. It doesn't feel like a romance at all and it's far too late in the book for me to change my mind about their realtionship.. I don't care how much he declares his love for Adria at the end..for me he won't ever feel as strongly as Adria loves him. At the end of the day he's only with her because Lisette was happily married..I wonder what would happen if Adria rejected him at the end and Lisette left her husband moved to Snowdancer..Riaz would feel the tug and mate bond/dance for Lisette everyday and he would get to know her and like all previous potential mates would end up falling for her and bonding with her..I cannot imagine for a second with his mate free and around him all the time that he would choose Adria..sure he'd prob want Adria for a while but inevitably the potential mate bond would be to strong for him to avoid.
It's not enough that Adria will essentially always be second best (come on no matter how much he loves her it's been drilled for 10 books that a mate is the most imporatnt person for a changeling..so for me Lisette is Riaz's no1 even if he thinks by the end it's Adria because his soul sings for her and he has to fight his feelings for her constantly) I'm especially pissed that Adria will never get to feel what it likes to find her mate because of her love for Riaz but Riaz will always feel that tug towards Lisette and she'll always have a special place in his heart, wolf and soul.

Sephora your right about Sascha, Faith and co being very lucky not having had had their mates fall in love otherwise when they came on the scene they wouldn't have even warranted a second glance at them.
So being in love can 'overpower' the mating bond?? so what's the point of having the mating bond in the first place..oh that's right the mating bond is oh so precious and there's no feeling like it and nothing compares to it..oh but wait a minute if your in love the poss of a mating bond doesn't even register..the mating can't be that special then..oh but if a changeling spends their life with someone they love (w/o mating bond) their missing the intimacy and the sense of being one whole that the mating bond would give them..so a changeling ending up with someone they love miss out on the most precious, beautiful thing they could have in their life..how is that a HEA?? It feels like the mating bond isn't that great because it can be dismissed if someone's in love and it also feels like being in love w/o bond isn't a real HEA. Because Riaz can be in love with someone other than his mate it now feels like the mate bond is just 'forced' in a way..they have no choice in who the mate is..whereas before even though the mating bond was their I felt that it was their because said bond was between soulmates so I didn't mind that it was out of the changelings hand because they were going to end up with the one they want and need but now that's not the case:(

Lulu, that passage at 70% of Adria holding a chunk of his heart..oh be still my heart..can things get any more romantic..snorts..I'm not happy with this as we know a changeling loves with all their heart..I'm sure he'll suddenly realise that he does love her with all his heart towards the very end but it's too little too late for me esp when for most of the book he's grieving/hurting/longing for Lisette and he's only had lusty feelings and great friend sex with Adria...and then for him to do a 180 and declare his devotion to Adria when Riaz hasn't shown or thought that Adria was anything more than a good lover and friend...nope not buying it.


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Post by Lulu2011 on Tue May 29, 2012 4:16 pm

sephora wrote:@lulu..have u reached the dull tug part? *snort* Evil or Very Mad

I am actively, and extremely disappointed with this book coz it created loopholes in what was a solid basis for this series..

No, I haven't reached that part yet. . . . *sighs*. . . . I keep hoping to hit the part where it all gets explained and makes sense. Haven't got there yet.

I am believing and buying into Adria loving Riaz. I totally understand how she is feeling and her fears about being 2nd choice. I am even beginning to buy into Riaz' love for her as well. He is taking good care of her, doing all the right things, playing with her, saying all the right things, but I need more . . . so back to the book I go.


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Post by tabitha on Tue May 29, 2012 4:20 pm

At first I was the same as you all regarding the lack of mating bond, however the scene with the old human couple celebrating their anniversary in the park, swung it for me although Riaz's chat with Dalton also helped.

I think Nalini handled this in the best way possible tbh, but it would have been better if they'd mated as that's what we expect to happen with the changelings in the series up to now.
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Post by tabitha on Tue May 29, 2012 4:21 pm

When can we start up discussions about ToN?
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Post by Lulu2011 on Tue May 29, 2012 5:03 pm

I've also noticed that it is constantly being pointed out how Hawke/Sienna and Riley/Mercy, just to name two couples, are always using the mating bond to check up on each other, to monitor each other, feeling that pulse of love coming through lol. So it really stands out that Riaz and Adria don't have that. It makes me want to Crying or Very sad
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Post by Lulu2011 on Tue May 29, 2012 7:53 pm

Finished just a while ago. I need some sleep and to process and then to re-read. Hopefully, we can have an open discussion soon.

Should we start another topic so we can freely discuss the plot and spoilers?
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Post by paranormalmama on Tue May 29, 2012 8:42 pm

What do you guys think? Do we have to be spoiler free? Until I know for sure I will say this....I think the mating bond has been undermined, and I hope the next changeling couple has the bond...

I was very bummed that Sienna is on birth control....I know there is a lot up in the air, but I just really wanted Hawke to become a father...I hope the series does not end before they can safely have a baby...

I will say that given how it played out, I am satisfied with Riaz not longing for Lisette...so ok, they are happy and bondless, like humans (even though they are changeling...)

I loved Riley & Mercy in this book! I loved so much page time for Vasic & Aden and the arrows, I loved Kaleb and I looooved Hawke & Sienna as the back story! They were amazing as I knew they would be!

And Judd *faint*

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Post by cheebee on Tue May 29, 2012 9:09 pm

And Judd??????

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Post by Lulu2011 on Tue May 29, 2012 9:22 pm

paranormalmama, I think we will see Hawke and Sienna have a baby. I really do. But Sienna's reasons were sound. She's only 19 and that plan at the end that she and Hawke put together is dangerous so she needs to get to a place where things are more stable and safe.
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Post by paranormalmama on Tue May 29, 2012 9:53 pm

@LuLu i hope so...maybe in a few years *sigh*

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Post by sephora on Tue May 29, 2012 11:03 pm

Im being whiny, I know, but I wish I hadnt read this book.

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Coz if things are to looked at from ToS pov, then why bother giving Hawke/ Sienna a bond to begin with?? Dont get me wrong, I love my Snows, and I was ecstatic, when the mating bond happened for them, but frankly after this book, it makes think, why the big deal. Just have them fall in love and get it over with.

Well, on one hand, we are getting constant reminders of how amazing the bond truly is, via H/S, and M/R and through Riaz's pain itself, on the other hand, apparently it can be ignored. Not given up completely ,but ignored enough to fall for someone else.

I feel truly bad for Adria though. Her insecurities are completely spot on, and you cant blame her for having those fears. And then you have her fall for a man, who while "devoted' to her, will never truly be hers.

Riaz shouldn't have been paired up with anyone at all, honestly, if this was how it was gonna be.

The rules for the psy-changeling world are changing, looks like.

And my bitterness is a bad taste in mouth....

Settling for someone, is not ,what a happy ending makes....
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Post by cheebee on Tue May 29, 2012 11:11 pm

I'm not sure that Hawke and sienna have a truly "organic" mating bond. I suspect it was only possible because Siena punched into his mind and Hawke used that path to establish a bond to keep her from killing herself.

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Post by sephora on Tue May 29, 2012 11:25 pm

@cheebee, nope, the door to the bond wouldn't open, coz Hawke's human half was behaving like an Ostrich (head in the sand). Otherwise any psy who forms an emotional connection to a changeling,and has enough power, can just punch through their mind and open doors to the bond.IMHO.So I can understand how their bond came about.

This book pretty much just shook the foundations of the mating bond.Now, I'm just second guessing the whole idea of the bond to begin with...
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Post by ferdy on Wed May 30, 2012 12:23 am

cheebee wrote:I'm not sure that Hawke and sienna have a truly "organic" mating bond. I suspect it was only possible because Siena punched into his mind and Hawke used that path to establish a bond to keep her from killing herself.

Yea, I kind of feel the same way regarding their bond..I do think that he would have eventually mated her if she hadn't punched in to his mind but I think Nalini should have made things clearer about their bond..I knid of felt that we were just filling in the blanks and assuming what exactly happened and why it happened..instead of it being 100% crystal clear about the ins and outs of their bond. I'm mostly at peace with Sienna/Hawke and accept and understand their mating bond/relationship..shame I can't say the same for Roaz/Adria.

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Post by ferdy on Wed May 30, 2012 1:12 am

sephora wrote:Im being whiny, I know, but I wish I hadnt read this book.

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Coz if things are to looked at from ToS pov, then why bother giving Hawke/ Sienna a bond to begin with?? Dont get me wrong, I love my Snows, and I was ecstatic, when the mating bond happened for them, but frankly after this book, it makes think, why the big deal. Just have them fall in love and get it over with.

Well, on one hand, we are getting constant reminders of how amazing the bond truly is, via H/S, and M/R and through Riaz's pain itself, on the other hand, apparently it can be ignored. Not given up completely ,but ignored enough to fall for someone else.

I feel truly bad for Adria though. Her insecurities are completely spot on, and you cant blame her for having those fears. And then you have her fall for a man, who while "devoted' to her, will never truly be hers.

Riaz shouldn't have been paired up with anyone at all, honestly, if this was how it was gonna be.

The rules for the psy-changeling world are changing, looks like.

And my bitterness is a bad taste in mouth....

Settling for someone, is not ,what a happy ending makes....

My sentiments exactly..I woke up early to finish the book and I wished I hadnt bothered becuase I'm pissed re Adria/Riaz and I'm also tired and cranky. I didn't like Adria/Riaz's resolution, I think they will be readers that are more than happy with Riaz and Adria's HEA but I'm not one of them.. I feel let down.

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It was only at 75% that I actually believed that Riaz saw Adria as more than a lover/confidante/friend and even then I wasn't impressed with his feelings for her.
I thought it was interesting and also frustrating/unsatisfying that when Adria walked away from Riaz and he 'lost' her he was angry and upset but his pain/emotion/feelings were so underwhelming and pretty much nothing compared to him 'losing' Lisette.. For most of the book the way he describes how he was grieving for Lisette and how it killed him and that he'd never felt that level of pain before and how it tore him apart..I mean he never felt anywhere close to that when Adria left him.. no one has affected him more than Lisette and no one will make him feel that much pain and that much joy again IMO.
I wish Adria's potential mate would have been addressed more..I actually would have been happier if she had met him and had a chance to feel what she would be missing out on.. the fact that she has no idea of the deep, life changing feeling a potential mate gives a changeling is so sad..I mean Riaz experienced it and I'm doubtful that any feelings he has with Adria no matter how devoted to her he is will ever compare to what he felt for Lisette - first the joy and shock at finding her and then the indescribable pain of losing her.. his feelings for Adria no matter how strong won't cause him the same soul deep joy or pain.
Throughout the book Adria the woman and the wolf have feelings for Riaz that she's never ever come close to having experienced before but Riaz's wolf and the man's feelings for Adria IMO don't compare to what he felt for Lisette. How is Riaz always having that primal, instinctive tug towards another woman considered a happy ending..it's not a good enoug happy ending (for me anyway). Riaz will always possess Adria's heart fully but Adria will never fully have Riaz's heart because no matter how you look at it he'll always have that connection and raw need/feelings towards Lisette. He'll share a special connection and feeling with Lisette that he'll never feel with Adria..even in the slim chance they do mate at some point in a later book it still won't be anything special becuase he's felt it all before with Lisette. Adria to me is still the consolation prize and she deserved so much more after being with Martin for 10 years.
I didn't feel any better when Lisette came back on the scene because even though Riaz didn't want her she also didn't want him..after reading all about about the bond and mates in previous books I feel that had Lisette wanted Riaz and stuck around that eventually he would have stopped fighting to be with Adria (we all know if Lisette stick around and was a single agaent she wouldn't have taken back Riaz becuase she wouldn't wnat to deny him a chance at being with his mate) and he wouldn't have been able to keep ignoring the mating tug when his mate was available and near him.. it's inevitable that he would have got to know Lisette and been in the mating dance and then had a mating bond with her..a connection unlike any other unlike anthing he'll have with Adria.
The talk with Hawke and Dalton didn't make things all that clearer for me because it just bought into too many variables and what they said was too wishy washy..it seems that a changelings HEA is largely dependant on being in the right place, right time and right circumstance.. rather than woah that person is my mate, my one and only, that person is irreplaceable and your the only one that coud give me my HEA..rather than by chance were someone completely different could give the person a life that's hust as complete and happy.
I'm so upset for Adria because the feelings she described for Riaz were very much the feelings changelings have towards a mate..but he wasn't her mate. The feelings Riaz had for Adria were just so meh for most of the book and then at the end it felt like he mostly loved her like a human rather than that of a changeling. So he still has the mating tug at the end with Lisette it just makes me think who would he choose if both Adria and Lisette's life were in danger..sure he's devoted to Adria but Lisette is his mate and wouldn't it be the wolf's automatic instinct to save his mate..no matter how much his wolf has accepted Adria as his lover.
Bleugh I don't like the implications of Riaz and Adria being together it just cheapens/lessens the previously supposed gold standard ofthe changeling's mating bond. I also dont like that they won't share a bond after R/M and H/S's bond was shoved in our faces..H/S were in love and commited to each other before the bond just as much as A/R are now but what we've read in KoS and ToN we know that they share so much more with the bond and have a completeness and certaintity towards each other that they didn't have prior to the bond..so knowing that how can I be satisfied with A/R's HEA when I feel like their missing something and that A/R especially Adria have been short changed.
Sorry for the long rant..I just so much feelings re A/R/L and the mating bond vs no mating bind.

I'm going to try and get a few hrs more sleep and then do a quick re read after so I can see if I can poss find the A/R situation more to my liking (it's doubtful that I'll be any happier about them re reading..I suspect if anything I'll be less happy with their HEA.


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Post by cheebee on Wed May 30, 2012 1:17 am

The way I read it, it seemed that way to me. It didn't just seem like reluctance on Hawke's part.

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Post by TheFLuff on Wed May 30, 2012 1:31 am

Spoiler:
The way I read it, Riaz actually overrode his wolfs instincts, to be with the woman, he wanted.
Which to me is kind of impressive. And it actually values Adria alot higher than a mate.

It´s easy to go in, saying "I know you are mine" or going in saying: I know the danger, I know the insecurities, but I´ll take that leap and want you anyways. Not because of some magical pull, but because of YOU!


Something else:

Did Aden really.. REALLY say, they couldn´t trust Vasic anymore?

REALLY?!

Oh and I loved the Arrows. How insecure they are. and how lost.
Judds going to have his hands full.
And not talking about Vasic and his sacrifice for Aden... because Aden still had a chance
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Post by cheebee on Wed May 30, 2012 1:39 am

Tell us more about the arrows! Smile

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