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So who is the Ghost?

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Post by Bella171901 Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:37 pm

What Henny benny is dead?!?! Omg, ok then I guess its Ming. Ming could even be Saschas father.
The other opportunity would the nethead could finally manifest and became human. He'd be incredibly powerfull.
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Post by Rageane Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:58 pm

Ming can't TK himself.
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Post by Bella171901 Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:06 pm

ok can we just agree that the Ghost is the Ghost of the Cookiemonster who wants to kill ming for steeling all of the worlds cookies. Thanks.
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Post by Elisabeth Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:02 pm

haha, good idea Laughing
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:07 pm

Are we even thinking about the possibility that the Ghost is Zaid? Of course, there is the small issue of him surviving the last 100+ years hidden from those who knew him, but he is mentioned far too often to be just some guy from the past. Or at least I got that impression.
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Post by degdelta Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:41 pm

interesting thought, but Judd knows who the Ghost is and, at the end of ToN, while talking to Alice (Chapter 61)

... if Judd was right about the date of Zaid's death, the other male's lifetime would've intersected with Alice's.

also, i don't think what little we know of Zaid fits with the bits and pieces we know about the Ghost.

but i agree, Nalini keeps bringing him up for a reason...

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Post by tabitha Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:17 am

Interesting thought. Maybe Zaid is the Ghost Smile
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Post by Elaine Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:01 pm

I agree that the way Nalini has mentioned Zaid in 4 books now is intriguing, seems to point to his being significant in the present. Or maybe it is because the Arrows are preparing to break some of the founding reasons for the Arrows (Zaid established them to ensure success of his parents' vision. And he himself cleaned up the failures of the first tries at the Silence Protocol. This is in Caressed by Ice.)

However, as the Ghost is teleport-capable, Zaid can't be the Ghost (even if he managed to survive to the present) as he was a cardinal Tp-Psy with ability in mental combat, no mention of Tk abilities at all.
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Post by Lulu2011 Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:17 pm

Nalini told Fluff at the Love Letter Convention a couple weeks ago that Zaid is dead, as in really most sincerely dead. So, he's not the Ghost.
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Post by TracyTheOncer Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:28 am

After rereading everything, I still think the Ghost has to be Kaleb. He's the one that fits the most w/ the clues. I'd be shocked if it was anyone else. At the same time, if it's not Kaleb, then I wouldn't be totally disappointed, as I'd be looking forward to 2 books instead of 1.


As to whom he's been tracking, it's most likely Sahara or that Swan girl. Sahara makes the most sense to me, but I'd be happy either way. Otherwise, "she" could be a family member....
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Post by Lulu2011 Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:32 am

I like the idea of it being Sahara because it's a great reason to pull Faith and Vaughn and Anthony into the story.
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Post by Bella171901 Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:25 pm

I think it would be weird if Sahrara would be "her". That's like: Omg-so-not-a-surprise.
Like you know it was with KristoffXFurie, RonXHermione aso.
Kinda takes the surprisign effect away. And I think F-Psy are lame.
But I'm still convinced the nethead is the ghost.
1) he's not "real" real.
2) incredibly powerfull
3) trustworthy (like if any changeling would trust a psy in such a short time) 4) would make the psynet look pretty cool
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Post by Lulu2011 Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:49 pm

Sahara wouldn't at all be a surprise to us who visit this forum and who are avid (uh, fanatic Very Happy) readers of the series. But a lot of readers probably don't remember Sahara from a 2 line mention of her back in VoH. Another couple of groups I visit, there are always questions about who Sahara is and why she might be Kaleb's mystery girl when her name comes up.
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Post by TracyTheOncer Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:23 pm

Lulu2011 wrote:Sahara wouldn't at all be a surprise to us who visit this forum and who are avid (uh, fanatic Very Happy) readers of the series. But a lot of readers probably don't remember Sahara from a 2 line mention of her back in VoH. Another couple of groups I visit, there are always questions about who Sahara is and why she might be Kaleb's mystery girl when her name comes up.

Exactly. If I wasn't obsessed (lol), I don't think I would have thought of her. In fact, I think it was from some website (Dear Author, perhaps) that brought it to my attention way back when (and how it fits w/ Kaleb's star & with the "missing" time frame). Sahara is only mentioned once in the series, as an afterthought. Nalini also refers to how F-Psy are sometimes held captive. In addition, I think Nalini has planned Sahara and Kaleb from the beginning, as they are both introduced in the same book. She also, way back when in a Q&A, said that there would be a Psy/Psy couple in the future.

I do find the Swan girl to be another likely scenario, as we know something probably happened w/ Kaleb and her from that sentence in CBI. If anything, Nalini links them together even more. However, I still think Sahara is more likely since she's in the Net.
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Post by Bella171901 Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:28 pm

Shoshanna/Tatiana was rumored to keep a F-psy for own amusement (I'd probably do the same Twisted Evil ) I guess it's Sahara
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Post by degdelta Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:31 pm

again - rereading the series and came across a clue that most of us had forgotten.

when Councilor Marshall is killed (in MtP) the Ghost is having lunch with a minor official as an alibi. don't know about you but I can't see Vasic doing lunch with anyone, much less with a non-Arrow. so....?!!

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Post by tabitha Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:09 am

I'm thinking it might be Zaid Adelaja who created the Arrows, as it says in ToN that he was telepath with a ferocious ability in mental combat.

He is mentioned in several other books too.

He has a connection to Alice of some kind, it would be great if they had a hidden romance and if Zaid isn't dead and that can be rekindled.
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Post by Lulu2011 Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:13 am

I like the idea of Zaid being alive too and maybe pairing him up with Alice but Nalini said he's dead, as in really truly dead.
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Post by Patricia Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:15 am

I hate it when they're dead.
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Post by Katherine Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:00 am

What about Aden?

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Post by Bella171901 Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:21 am

What if Kaleb has a twin?
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Post by tabitha Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:09 am

I always thought that maybe he had a sister and that maybe that was who he was searching for. But it's almost certain that it's Sahara NightStar.

the other thing I wondered about was if there was something more to his connection to the BlackEdge wolf back than just a sharing of territory. This was where my fanfic was going...
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Post by Bella171901 Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:40 pm

Couldn't it be possible that Kaleb is partly a changeling? Even if it is pretty unlikely that a changeling and a psy would have a cardinal ... boy's pretty unlikely himself. That would explain his "parents". If someone (his paper-parents) created him the same way Amara created Keenan, everything would be possible. How great would that be?
An ultimative weapon, one half psy one half changeling.
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Post by Patricia Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:09 pm

Maybe yeaaars ago and the DNA lay dormant, but it still IS there or whatever. I'd read FanFiction about it.
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Post by TheLastCardinal Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:17 pm

I also wish Zaid Adelaja to be the ghost . He and alice have connection i wish in further books its explored
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